Episode 144 - Fall Camp Preview 2016: Gettin' Chryst-y with it

Fall camp is here! Rich and Max go through thoughts and expectations, offering their thoughts on what a successful preseason should look like.  


  • 2:30 Send us your bold predictions! Or call them in!
  • 4:00 Things the hosts are excited about
  • 5:00 Max: How the secondary takes shape
  • 8:30 Rich: Houston locking down the QB position
  • 10:45 Max: Chryst-y type things
  • 18:30 Rich: Is there a plus athlete on the defense?
  • 23:00 What freshmen will get playing time?
  • 23:45 Rich: Is Bradrick Shaw for real?
  • 27:00 Estes and Sanders not on the 105 man roster
  • 29:15 Ty DeForest transfers to Illinois St
  • 31:00 Clarifying Dixon's weight loss
  • 31:45 Voltz at OG
  • 34:15 Uniform talk
  • 35:30 Seriously. Bold predictions. Send them.
  • 36:30 Witty repartee 

Episode 143 - Big Picture: Nebraska

Rich and Max are joined by Mike'l Severe of The Bottom Line on Omaha.com to discuss the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Rich and Max then finish the show with some listener feedback on their depth analysis, realistic expectations for the Badgers year to year, and if there will be more BuckAround shirts in the future.


  • 1:30 Like Limp Bizkit, Rich and Max "Keep Rollin' "
  • 4:00 Welcome back Mike'l Severe of The Bottom Line
  • 4:45 Factors behind a poor 2015
  • 6:00 Close losses
  • 7:30 Tommie Armstrong's ceiling
  • 8:45 Best WR group in the B1G?
  • 10:00 Top 3 rushing attack in B1G?
  • 11:15 Is Newby an every down back?
  • 13:00 Is the OL the limiting factor for the offense?
  • 14:45 Heavy losses on the DL
  • 17:00 Experience and depth at LB
  • 18:30 Riley's ceiling/fit at Nebraska
  • 21:00 How will 2016 shake out?
  • 24:30 Matt from Waukesha on flattery and favorite episodes
  • 30:00 Northern Illinois CB's
  • 30:15 Jack from Oslo, Norway on more Buckaround apparel
  • 34:00 Someone driving a truck owes me a beer
  • 35:30 ... And a reminder l owe Kyle one
  • 36:15 Travis from STL on the RB grade
  • 41:15 Travis from STL on the QB situation (IOWA MENTIONS)
  • 46:15 Travis from STL on UM hype
  • 49:45 Tookie Monster on realistic expectations
  • 1:00:00 Bold prediction show prep... Send your predictions!

Episode 142 - B1G Picture: Iowa

Max hosts solo this week and tackles the subject he can never talk about enough: Iowa! He's joined by Marc Morehouse of the Cedar Rapids Gazette to look back at Iowa's 12-2 season and see what is in store for Iowa in 2016.


  • 1:30 Max is flying solo for Hawkeyearound
  • 1:45 Welcome back Marc Morehouse of the Cedar Rapids Gazette
  • 3:30 Recapping Iowa's 2015
  • 6:45 Why the different mentality in 2015
  • 8:30 Advanced stats blind spots?
  • 11:15 Parallels between 2015 and other great Iowa years
  • 13:45 B1G Championship recap
  • 18:00 What is CJ Beathards ceiling?
  • 21:30 The pass catchers
  • 24:15 Experience back on the OL
  • 27:00 The running game
  • 29:00 The front seven
  • 32:00 The secondary
  • 34:00 Special teams
  • 36:15 Outlook for 2016
  • 38:15 Shots fired... At Purdue
  • 41:45 Sustainability
  • 44:15 Max, like all Badger fans, wishes Iowa sustained success
  • 44:00 Marc, in turn, brings up 59-0
  • 45:45 Max acknowledges we will mock him for UW being his 4th favorite team
  • 47:45 The B1G landscape

Episode 141 - B1G Picture: Michigan State

Rich is joined by Chris Vannini of CoachingSearch.com and The Only Colors podcast to preview the Michigan State Spartans. Rich also discusses the updated fall roster and what can be inferred from weight gains/losses over the past year.


  • 1:15 You see me Rollin'... Rollin' solo
  • 3:00 Chris Vannini of coaching search.com
  • 3:30 Reviewing the 2015 Spartans
  • 6:15 The QB battle
  • 8:15 How much does losing Cook hurt?
  • 10:00 How will RB's be handled?
  • 12:30 The line loses a pair of Jacks
  • 14:00 Is there depth at DL?
  • 17:00 Are there ANY concerns in back 7?
  • 23:00 How does 2016 play out?
  • 25:30 The Badger vs Sparty rivalry
  • 29:15 Roster tidbits
  • 32:30 The incredibly shrinking Kevin Estes
  • 37:30 The incoming Freshmen
  • 43:15 TJ Edwards and his foot

Episode 140 - B1G Picture: Illinois

Mark Primiano of the Champaign room returns to discuss the Fighting Illini and Rich and Max finish up their positional depth discussion with the defense. 


  • 1:45 An action packed show
  • 3:00 Welcome back Mark Primiano of Champaign Room
  • 3:45 Thoughts on Josh Whitman and Lovie Smith
  • 9:30 Why couldn't Whitman wait a year?
  • 11:30 The Cover 2 in college
  • 13:45 Wes Lunt
  • 16:15 Will this be more of a run first offense?
  • 20:30 How will the DL shape up?
  • 23:15 Will there be major issues at LB?
  • 25:15 Barton and the DB's
  • 26:30 Max declares Illini are going bowling!!!
  • 32:15 Illinois is the love child of Iowa and Northern Illinois
  • 34:00 The Defensive depth and projection grades
  • 34:15 Defensive End
  • 39:00 Nose Tackle
  • 44:30 Inside Linebacker
  • 50:45 Outside Linebacker
  • 56:00 Cornerback featuring Serge Trezy
  • 1:03:00 Safety

Episode 139 - Wall to Wall Badger Talk

By popular demand (well...sort of) Rich and Max return with a show that is just Badger talk from start to finish (if you don't include Max's indignant Iowa references). They discuss some B1G trade follow ups, the reclassification of Ke'shan Pennamon to the 2017 recruiting class, current and future depth on the offense, and smack talk surrounding baked good. 


  • 2:30 Rich cheats on Max with a Husker pod
  • 4:15 TJ in Phoenix in the lack of Badger talk on the Buckaround
  • 12:30 Luke from B5Q on trading an OL for a WR
  • 16:15 Keshawn Pennamon (probably) ain't walkin through that door
  • 19:30 Max Minute(s)
  • 22:30 Roster strength and projection grades
  • 24:30 Quarterback
  • 30:30 Rex in KC on how the QB position plays out
  • 36:00 Running Back
  • 40:00 ALL HAIL IOWA!!!
  • 44:00 Wide Reciever
  • 51:15 Fullback
  • 54:30 Offensive Line
  • 59:00 Tight End
  • 1:06:15 Kyle from Silly Yak drops the gauntlet on Show Lacky Steve
  • 1:09:15 Next Week: The Defense

Episode 138 - B1G Picture: Minnesota

Kyle Goblirsch returns to the BuckAround and gives an update on the state of Minnesota football since the departure of Jerry Kill. 


  • 2:00 Facial hair
  • 5:30 Welcome back Kyle Goblirsch of Gopher247
  • 6:15 Making sense of 2015
  • 11:00 How did Jerry Kill wind up at KSU?
  • 13:00 Did anyone see the coaching staff breakup coming?
  • 15:45 How long of a leash does Claeys have?
  • 17:45 Talking about future first round pick Mitch Leisner
  • 21:15 Will a RB emerge or will they go with a committee?
  • 23:30 Will all the JUCO OL's start?
  • 25:30 A look at the pass catchers
  • 30:00 The depth at LB
  • 33:30 Only one returning starter among the DB's
  • 36:15 Projecting the 2016 season
  • 42:15 Who is beating Iowa?!?

Episode 137 - B1G Picture: Purdue

Nathan Baird joins the BuckAround to give the latest on the Boilermakers. He discusses the future (and past) of Darell Hazell, if the rotating door at quarterback will stop spinning, and gives his thoughts on who the playmakers for Purdue will be in 2016. Rich and Max then close the show with the long awaited host and listener player trade hypotheticals. 


  • 1:30 Beer
  • 5:00 Welcome Nathan Baird of the Lafayette Journal & Courier
  • 5:30 Has there been improvement under Hazell?
  • 8:45 Does Blough stay as starting QB?
  • 12:00 Who will help Markell Jones at RB?
  • 14:30 Any playmakers emerging?
  • 16:45 Is LB the best/deepest position?
  • 21:00 A look at the DL
  • 22:45 Are the ST special?
  • 25:15 How does 2016 play out?
  • 28:30 A bowl game?!?
  • 30:45 Is 6 wins enough for Hazell?
  • 34:00 Badger player trades
  • 55:00 Max's trade
  • 56:00 Rich's trade
  • 1:03:30 Next week: Minnesota

Episode 136 - B1G Picture: Northwestern

Rich and Max are joined by Bucky's Fifth Quarter founder Adam Hoge, now the Bears Insider for WGN Radio and sideline reporter for Northwestern football. Adam discusses whether it's better to be good versus lucky, what to expect in Clayton Thorson's 2nd season, how good the defense will be after a strong 2015 campaign, and what he makes of the Badgers' prospects for the upcoming season. Rich and Max close the show with a discussion of listener etiquette in bakeries, what in the world Max uses DropBox for, and a reminder for listeners to send in their B1G trades. 


  • 2:00 Come for the trade ideas... Wait til next week
  • 5:30 Welcome Adam Hoge to talk Northwestern football
  • 6:30 Were the Wildcats not much better than last year?
  • 9:15 The development of Clayton Thorson
  • 12:45 Expectations at WR
  • 15:30 Why did the DB's move to WR?
  • 17:30 How will the OL shake out?
  • 20:15 Replacing departed DL's
  • 22:15 Can the Cats repeat 2015's defensive success?
  • 24:30 How will Northwestern look in 2016?
  • 27:00 Adam's thoughts on the 2016 Badgers
  • 30:30 5 minutes on our awesomely awesome show lackey Steven
  • 35:00 Max's Technology Corner
  • 37:45 Arman "helping" Rich

Episode 135 - Return of the Max! (part 2)

Max returns to the BuckAround to forcefully rebut Rich's outlandish recruiting claims from episode 134 (SPOILER: they really don't disagree that much, sorry). They also share a #hypothetical from longtime friend Bizarro Max and answer a show history question from Wes in LA. 


  • 1:45 Return of Return of the Max
  • 4:15 Sympatico views on recruiting the offensive side of the ball
  • 6:00 QB recruiting and injury luck
  • 8:00 TE and how Hescock is NOT from Connecticut
  • 10:15 Recruiting in Michigan and the Michigan schools
  • 12:30 Recruiting nationally and Chryst recruiting at Pitt
  • 15:30 Max rambles on about Hayden Fry and the greatness of Iowa... For 15 seconds
  • 25:30 Bret Bielema as a developer
  • 29:30 Bizarro Max on hypothetical B1G trades
  • 36:00 Wes from LA on the origins of the Buckaround pod

Episode 134 - Adventures in Monologuing

Rich hosts all by his lonesome this week, diving into the long-promised discussion of the state of Badger recruiting. He discusses hopeful signs for the future while also asking whether or not Badger fans have a improper expectations for how Wisconsin can recruit. Don't forget to send in your Northwestern questions for episode 135!


  • 1:15 The East Coast Elitist... Flying solo
  • 3:45 Talking 'Crootin
  • 5:30 Things are going well at QB
  • 10:45 Identifying targets early
  • 14:00 Not just upper Midwest prospects
  • 17:30 Is Chryst a good recruiter?
  • 23:00 How is Chryst doing this?
  • 29:45 What if Bielema wasn't a good recruiter?
  • 33:00 Wes on flattery and the geographic proliferation of the Buckaround and why non-Badger fans listen

Episode 133 - Football 101: Recruiting Basics with Allen Trieu

Continuing the Football 101 series, Rich and Max are joined by Allen Trieu, Midwest Football Recruiting Manager for Scout.com. He explains the rules regulations, and limitations of today's recruiting world. They round out the show with a favorite listener segment - the BSAPM.


  • 2:15 Welcome Allen Trieu... The Grand Puba of Scout
  • 2:45 What does "being recruited" involve?
  • 4:45 What do a coach and recruit talk about?
  • 6:15 How are they communicating?
  • 7:15 What are the rules governing contact?
  • 10:00 Bill from Neenah and unofficial vs official visits
  • 15:15 Jon from Madison and how star ratings work
  • 19:45 What's the purpose of an uncommitable offer?
  • 21:30 How are kids found? Where does the film come from?
  • 24:15 Jake in Sun Prairie on how much outfitters influence recruits
  • 26:45 Chris from Champaign and the importance of HS coaches in the process
  • 28:30 What effect do satellite camps have?
  • 30:30 What would Allen change in recruiting?
  • 36:30 Clement looks like a Mack truck
  • 40:15 Who is negative on the BSAPM?

Episode 132 - BuckAround Film Room: Offensive Line Redux?

Rich and Max are joined by the "famous" Jon from Minneapolis who dissects the offensive line post spring game. He looks the hype surrounding Ryan Ramczyk, the future of Dan Voltz, and what to make of the right side of the offensive line.  They close the show discussing satellite camps and televisions deals. 


  • 3:00 An examination of Max's Twitter
  • 7:45 Welcome back John from Minneapolis... Soon to be Madison
  • 9:30 Is Ryan Ramczyk the real deal?
  • 13:00 Who else impressed during the spring game?
  • 14:45 Dan Voltz, where does he fit on this OL?
  • 18:15 What does Voltz's return mean for Dietzen?
  • 20:40 How will the backups shake out?
  • 23:00 What about right tackle?
  • 26:45 What to make of Kevin Estes?
  • 28:45 Is the OL going to be more like what Badgers fans are accustomed to?
  • 31:15 How close is the offense to returning to what Chryst wants to run?
  • 33:00 A look at the TEs
  • 38:30 Tookey Monster on satellite camps
  • 47:45 Travis from St Louis on the B1G signing with Fox

Episode 131 - Spring Practice Wrap

With the Badger spring practice coming to a close Rich and Max take stock of what they've seen from the team over the past month plus. They look at areas that have impressed as well as places they feel the team still has question marks before closing the show with a listener question comparing the 2016 offense with Chryst offenses from 2009-10. 


  • 1:30 Skin care and lawn mowing
  • 6:30 Impressed by the depth
  • 9:30 Max arrives at Camp Randall
  • 11:45 Highlighting a concern at NT
  • 14:30 Let's talk QB's
  • 21:00 Corey Clement is ready to go
  • 21:30 Max tries to derail the pod with Iowa talk
  • 24:30 Leon Jacobs and others who may need a new position
  • 28:00 The third string QB probably isn't Bobby Dunn
  • 30:00 A look at the pass catchers
  • 31:30 Rich Rich knows who Reggie Love is (the guy in the poster on his wall)
  • 36:30 Free Safety... Why hasn't Farrar seized this opportunity
  • 43:15 Jake from Sun Prairie on Chryst trying to recreate 2010
  • 52:00 A TE fight breaks out
  • 55:00 How many questions did spring practice answer
  • 1:02:00 Brin from the Scoreboard on seeing people in BuckAround shirts.

Episode 130 - Last Call for Spring Football

With the Badgers' 2016 Spring Game just days away, Rich and Max wrap up their discussions of spring practice with a look at the latest developments from camp including the apparent shuffling on the offensive line going into the fall and answer some big picture listener questions. Don't forget to send us your spring game thoughts for next week's show!


  • 2:00 Apologies for the delay
  • 4:30 Bill from Neenah and scheduling
  • 8:30 Dylan from PA and coaches getting paid
  • 23:00 Dylan from PA and if UW is a basketball or football school
  • 27:00 Dylan from PA on hating coaches
  • 32:30 Are the OL's dark days over?
  • 37:00 Max is attending the spring game... As am l
  • 43:15 Talking Max's new favorite team, Illinois, and the loss of Dudek

Episode 129 - Spring Practice Update with John Veldhuis

Rich and Max are joined for the first time by John Veldhuis of BadgerBlitz.com. John gives an update on spring practice to date including his analysis of the quarterback race, the progression of the offensive line, and what the defense will look like under Justin Wilcox. 


  • 2:45 The Buckaround is back... And ready to talk NIU football
  • 5:30 Welcome John Veldhuis of BadgerBlitz.com
  • 6:45 How are QB's looking?
  • 10:00 Why is Houston the favorite?
  • 12:00 Are either of them better than Stave? Will they be in the future?
  • 17:00 Who is the third string QB?
  • 20:00 What to make of Taiwan Deal?
  • 23:30 Will Dare be the third down back?
  • 25:30 Leon Jacobs... FB?
  • 30:30 Define legitimate and the depth at WR
  • 36:30 Anything of note (aka noteworthy) at TE?
  • 37:45 Back to "normal" at OL?
  • 40:00 How deep will the DL go?
  • 50:45 How will Wilcox's D compare to Aranda's?
  • 52:00 Is TJ Watt a difference maker?
  • 57:00 Who will replace Hillary? Is that even possible?
  • 1:04:45 China Bob wants to talk Titus Booker
  • 1:07:00 Who will return punts?
  • 1:11:30 We're caught up

Episode 128 - Football 101: Television and College Football

Mark Rudner, Senior Associate Commissioner of Television Administration for the Big Ten Conference, joins the show to educate Rich and Max on the finer points of how television and college football work together. The conversation ranges from when and how kickoff times are established to what the future of televisions sports is in the age of cord cutting. The show is closed with a discussion of the first day of spring practice.


  • 2:15 Welcome Mark Rudner from BTN
  • 3:15 How does college football scheduling work?
  • 17:15 How does that change with out of conference games?
  • 19:00 How much input does a school have?
  • 22:45 How has the conference network landscape changed?
  • 27:00 Why has BTN had better market penetration than PAC 12?
  • 30:15 Was BTN's reach better than projected?
  • 33:00 Where is hockey heading?
  • 36:00 Hockey expansion?
  • 37:00 SEC bias?
  • 40:00 When will BTN be on Apple TV?
  • 42:45 What is the next big thing?
  • 44:15 Looking at the next cable deal
  • 51:30 Spring practice is here
  • 52:30 Ryan Ramczyk... Starting LT
  • 54:30 Who are you and what have you done with negative Rich?
  • 56:30 A glimpse at the LB's
  • 58:45 Walker Williams and Arthur Goldberg
  • 1:00:00 Is the only drama at safety?
  • 1:03:30 upcoming schedule

Episode 127 - Spring Practice Preview: 2016 Edition

The Badgers hit the field on March 16th to officially begin the 2nd season of Paul Chryst's tenure as Wisconsin head coach. Max and Rich ready themselves for the next month of practices with discussions of the quarterback race, what the future holds for Taiwan Deal, and how much we can really learn about Justin Wilcox's defense in spring. They close the show with a listener voicemail and analysis of the hire of Lovie Smith.


  • 1:30 Old business and new business
  • 4:45 How will Paul Chryst handle the QB's?
  • 9:00 Is Taiwan Deal the most interesting man in Madison?
  • 11:00 Rich is puzzled by Leon Jacobs
  • 13:15 Rich is a Badgers fan.
  • 13:45 Will a clear starting 5 emerge on the OL?
  • 19:00 The uncertainty in the secondary
  • 24:00 Who will emerge as a playmaker?
  • 28:00 How much can we learn about Wilcox in the spring?
  • 30:00 Tookey Monster on why Wilcox might be hated
  • 32:30 Max doesn't think the Badgers can beat his favorite team in '16
  • 37:00 Illinois has gone crazy... Or big?

Episode 126 - Football 101: Advanced Football Stats with Bill Connelly

In what is (hopefully) the first of many installments, Rich and Max are joined by Bill Connelly of SBNation and Football Study Hall Fame to get a crash course in advanced stats and talk about his newest book project. They close the show with some listener mail and talk the hire of Jim Leonhard - something neither of them saw coming. 






  • 4:00 Welcome SBNation's Bill Connelly
  • 5:00 Least valuable stats?
  • 6:15 Which stats should be used less?
  • 8:00 The 5 factors of S&P+
  • 9:30 How did Bill get involved with advanced stats?
  • 13:15 Defining success rate
  • 15:00 The randomness of being... And the randomness of turnovers
  • 17:15 How F/+ combines two systems
  • 18:45 Preseason rankings
  • 23:00 Accounting for coaching turnover... Or not
  • 26:45 A statistical look at Stave
  • 28:15 A brief history of Wilcox
  • 30:00 Andy in Chicago and the limitations of football stats
  • 32:15 Dan in DC and why the NFL is more pass heavy
  • 34:15 THE BOOK! BUY IT!
  • 43:00 Brin from Madison corrects Rich and Max on QB depth
  • 49:00 Keelon Brookins moving back to safety
  • 49:45 The Badger coaching all stars
  • 52:00 Max went to Cornell? Yet denies his FCS heritage? For shame

Episode 125 - Way too Early 2016 Depth Charts: Defensive Edition

In a jam packed show, Rich and Max analyze the impact of the departure of Daronte Jones and FINALLY get to their backlog of listener mail. Those segments bookend their detailed projections for what the Badger defense will look like in 2016. 


  • 1:30 Getting back to our roots... And talking weather
  • 3:30 The loss of Daronte Jones
  • 8:00 The Defensive depth charts
  • 8:30 The DL
  • 14:45 The ILBs
  • 16:00 The OLBs
  • 19:00 The CBs
  • 24:00 Safety
  • 32:15 Kicker
  • 32:30 That was quick... Now the returners
  • 33:45 Punter
  • 35:00 The holder... seriously... The holder
  • 37:00 A shoutout for the sensitive Bizarro Max
  • 37:30 Eric from Becker, MN on kickers
  • 40:00 Nick from SW Wisconsin on Kare Lyles
  • 42:45 Tyler from Stevens Point on Wilcox
  • 45:30 Max is glad about Wilcox... Want easy access to this
  • 47:00 Aussie Luke on why he is a Badger fan (hint: it's about a girl)